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Sludge Report #130 – Flt 77, Searching For Answers

In This Edition. Flight 77: The Search For An Answer - Link: CNN Is Looking for More Pentagon Impact Pictures.

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Sludge Report #130

Flight 77: The Search For An Answer

While none of the following three images solve the problem where the 757 is in the MSNBC security camera footage, they do shed some additional light on aspects of what you are looking at when veiwing the security camera footage.

(For coverage of the footage release see..
Sludge Report #129 – Great Pics, But No Flight 77

For the first report from Sludge on this controversy see...
Sludge Report #127 - The Hunt For Flight 77

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Caption: attempts to show profiles of planes overlayed over security camera images…

Notes on the above image:

In the above images Humanunderground’s reporter has not attempted to scale the size of the aircraft, and has instead simply attempted to reconcile the images with the profiles of the plane. That is, if the squiggle is the plane, then this is how big it would have to be.

It would seem likely to be only a matter of time before someone produces a scale image of a 757 overlayed on these images.

In the meantime, given that a 757, height 44 ft, is approximately as high as the Heliport tower discussed extensively in the image below, this can give you some idea of how big a low flying 757 ought to be.

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Caption: examines the location of the Heliport Tower…


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Caption: A Pentagon Spokesman Shows Flight 77’s Angle of Impact

Notes on the above image:

This image is notable in that it officially confirms the relative size of a 757 vis a vis the Pentagon building.

Notable also is the oblique angle of the impact which solves at least one mystery, namely, why the nose of the plane did not penetrate the second ring of the building.


Link: CNN Is Looking for More Pentagon Impact Pictures

While the US mainstream media have universally ignored this story thus far, the Washington Post’s online bureau did a great job of reporting the emergence of the new photos, even if they failed to mention a possible motive for their sudden discovery.

By Christina Pino-Marina Staff Writer
Thursday, March 7, 2002; 5:46 PM


“CNN first obtained the images and broadcast them Thursday afternoon. Reporter Jamie McIntyre said the photos were captured by a camera at security checkpoint on the grounds surrounding the Pentagon.”

“McIntyre said during a CNN broadcast that the network has filed Freedom of Information Act requests for photos and a video of the attack taken from another security checkpoint. The photos, he said, became available from another source before government officials responded to the request. “

“Officials from the Pentagon said the photos were not released officially by the Department of Defense.”

“A spokeswoman at the Department of Justice…. said she could not comment on whether the photos are legitimate, adding that the photos "were not disseminated by the FBI or the Department of Justice."

“According to the Associated Press, the images were made available to law enforcement to aid in the investigation.”

For full story and another slide show see…

All this, I am sure Sludge’s discerning readers will agree, begs several further questions before this matter can be put to bed.


Why is the authenticity of this footage not being acknowledged officially?

Has its authenticity been confirmed yet? And if so why hasn't it been reported?

Why is it necessary for CNN to file a Freedom of Information request to get the rest of the footage of the crash? What could possibly be secret about such footage?

And finally - in light of all the heat and light around this issue - why doesn’t the Pentagon simply release some photos of the wreckage of the plane, and thereby put this entire debate to bed?

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