Gordon Campbell | Parliament TV | Parliament Today | News Video | Crime | Employers | Housing | Immigration | Legal | Local Govt. | Maori | Welfare | Unions | Youth | Search


Q+A: Dita de Boni on the TICS Bill

Q+A 2013 Episode 25 25/08/13
Dita de Boni’s opinion of the Telecommunications Interception Capability and Security Bill

At one time, police took batons and tear gas to protesters; these days they can track them without leaving the station using wider and deeper digital surveillance that lasts a lot longer.

VIKRAM KUMAR - Chief Executive, Mega
Assume that everything you do online is being recorded, stored and analysed at least for maybe five to 10 years.

DITA CEO of Mega, Vikram Kumar has a stark warning about the new TICS [Telecommunications Interception Capability and Security] Bill.

VIKRAM It does mean that what people do every day on Facebook, Twitter, Gmail or Apple, assume that the government is able to get that whenever they want it.

DITA Perhaps most of us already assumed that online privacy is an oxymoron. But the new TICS Bill will put it into law. At the moment, everyone’s phones are intercept ready, meaning the GCSB can force telcos to hand over data if they deem it necessary. Under TICS, telcos will have to consult with the GCSB to ensure all new products and services provide a backdoor for data. But perhaps even more ominously for the average Joe, not just telcos but internet service providers and the Microsofts, Googles, Skypes and Apples of the world may also have to hand over data to the NZ government when they’re asked. Companies like Telecom say the rules must apply across the board.

JOHN WESLEY-SMITH - GM Regulatory and Industry Affairs, Telecom
Skype carries approximately a third of international calls out of NZ now. Messaging over the internet is going to be double. Our customers are using these services in significant volumes today, and we just can’t see how you can leave that part of your interception framework to be determined at a later date.

DITA Telecom can’t say how much data it is forced to hand over to the government each year, but says it spends millions on interception in the name of being a good corporate citizen. Offshore companies may not see it the same way.

JORDAN CARTER - Chief Executive, InternetNZ
The test will come if the government…if the minister decides to say, ‘Hey, Microsoft, hey, Google, we want you to be able to intercept content for us as well.’ What we don’t know is what will happen to those service providers. Will they just carry on and take the risk? Or will they withdraw their services from the NZ market?

DITA One way local providers can fend off the law is to provide online services that cannot be decrypted. Mega is working on such a service, but it may not avoid the inevitable.

VIKRAM I sometimes wonder whether email as we know it is going to come to an end. There may not be a future for email.

DITA Nor a future for any sort of privacy online - if anyone ever had it.

© Scoop Media

Parliament Headlines | Politics Headlines | Regional Headlines



Gordon Campbell: On John Key’s Trip To Iraq

In the embedded press coverage on this trip, the absence so far of any evaluation of the wider context of what New Zealand thinks it is doing at Camp Taji has been striking. More>>


Labour: Parata Puts Brakes On Charter School Appraisal

“When the Ministry of Education recommended they compare the achievements of children at charter schools to those of their counterparts at state schools, the documents show Hekia Parata specifically prohibited them from doing so." More>>


Bad Day For Universities: Gun, Bomb Threats On Three Campuses

Dunedin Police are continuing their investigation into the threat made against the University of Otago. Staff are following a number of lines of inquiry, and police are working to verify the authenticity and source of the post. More>>


Gordon Campbell: On The TPP Deal Reached In Atlanta

Yes, the TPP has helped to knock a few points off the tariffs facing our exporters. Yet some of those alleged dollar gains may well have been made regardless over time – and without the negative baggage of the concessions in the non-trade areas (intellectual property, copyright extensions, investor-state dispute mechanisms etc) that the TPP deal also brings in its wake. More>> (Cartoon by Dave Wolland)

Public Summaries:


Wellington.Scoop: Serco – First The Prisons, And Now It Wants To Run The Trains

As the government continues its inquiry into Serco’s discredited administration of Mt Eden prison in Auckland, here in Wellington there’s further scrutiny of the British outsourcing company – because it’s competing to take over the running of our commuter trains. More>>


Pre-Signing: Gordon Campbell On The TPP Countdown

To date, the Key government has been unwilling to share any information about this TPP deal until it is too late for outraged public opinion to affect the outcome... the disclosure process is likely to consist of a similarly skewed and careful exercise in spin. More>>


Australia Deportations: English Relaxed On Immigration Centre Conditions

Labour's Annette King: “There have been numerous reports from inside these detention centres on just how bad conditions are... If they were being held in any other foreign jail, I imagine Mr English would be somewhat concerned. More>>


Schools: Achievement-Based Funding Would Be A Disaster

The Education Minister’s speech to the PPTA Conference raising the spectre of achievement data driving a new funding system would be disastrous, says NZEI Te Riu Roa. More>>

  • Video Out-Link - PPTA Annual Conference 2015 on Livestream (Q+A dicussion suggests funding would be directed to less successful schools.)

  • ALSO:

    ECE Report:

    Get More From Scoop



    Search Scoop  
    Powered by Vodafone
    NZ independent news