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On-The-Record Briefing By Colin Powell

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman For Immediate Release September 12, 2001 2001/698

On-The-Record Briefing by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell

September 12, 2001 Washington, D.C.

SECRETARY POWELL: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I thought what I would do is to update you on the activities of the last several hours since I spoke to the press this morning. Let me begin once again by saying that our hearts go out to all the victims and to their families. It is a tragedy, but as the President has made clear, it is a tragedy that we are strong enough to overcome. Our spirits will not be broken. The resilience of this society will not be broken. We will find out who is responsible for this and they will pay for it.

We are undertaking a full court press diplomatically, politically, militarily, and in the course of the morning and early afternoon I have been in touch with a number of foreign leaders and international organizational leaders to coordinate the diplomatic approach to this. I have talked to Kofi Annan, Secretary General of the United Nations, and I thank the United Nations for the Security Council resolution they passed and also for the statement from the Generally Assembly. And I expect the General Assembly to also work on a resolution later today.

Lord Robertson in NATO is hard at work with a resolution that is under consideration now that would tee up -- if I can put it that way -- prime Article V responsibilities. Article V of the charter says that an attack from abroad by any one against any member of the alliance is an attack against the alliance. If that resolution goes forward, that doesn't invoke Article V yet but it puts in a position to be invoked, when the United States makes a judgment about the nature of the attack and where that attack came from. And I appreciate what Lord Robertson and his colleagues are doing for us.

I have also been in touch with Foreign Minister of Belgium Louis Michel, who is also head of the presidency of the EU at this time, and High Representative Javier Solana to thank them for the strong support we have received from the

European Union and the statements they have made, and their cooperation promise to us, to deal with this tragedy and to move forward.

I have also attended -- along of course, with my other colleagues -- the National Security Council meeting with the President where we reviewed all that has happened and began to make our plans for the efforts we will taking in the future, not only to bring these perpetrators to not only justice, but to the

punishment that they deserve. But at the same time to undertake a worldwide

effort to build a coalition against all forms of terrorism, wherever it may occur and however it rears its ugly head.

This will be a major priority of the Administration. And I can assure it will, therefore, be a major priority of the State Department. I have also in the course of the day spoken to the foreign minister of Great Britain, Germany, Canada. I have spoken to Foreign Minister Peres twice -- Prime Minister Sharon, Chairman Arafat, Foreign Minister Manley of Canada, if I didn't mention that, Foreign Minister Ivanov of Russia, Foreign Minister Ruggiero of Italy. And I have a number of other calls that are in the process of being made so that we can bring all of this together. And I must say I am deeply touched by the expressions of support I have received from my colleagues.

And as I think you all know the President has been very busy. And I am sure the White House has announced his two phone calls to President Putin, as well as to Mr. Chirac, Jiang Zemin, President Jiang Zemin, Prime Minister Blair, Prime Minister Schroeder, and Prime Minister Cretien. So he has spoken to all the four members of the Security Council. And I will leave it to my other Cabinet colleagues to talk about the issues under their purview over at Defense, Justice and FBI.

There are, of course, lots of reports and rumors out there, and I think it is wise for all of us to take many of these reports and rumors into some context and perspective. This is also a time, of course, in that regard for the American people to try in this time of tragedy to restore the society to a sense of normalcy. We've got to get back to our jobs, we've got to get back to work. And I know that Secretary Mineta, as soon as it is possible, and as soon as it makes sense and is safe, will restore the air traffic system and commercial air traffic will be brought back on-line. And I will wait for him to make those announcements with respect to that, and I know that's very much on your mind.

Once again, we're building a strong coalition to go after these perpetrators, but more broadly, to go after terrorism wherever we find it in the world. It's a scourge, not only against the United States, but against civilization, and it must be brought to an end.

I will be delighted to take a few questions.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, the State Department has been advocating restraint in response to terrorism, with the argument that violence only provokes more violence, it's an endless cycle. I wondered if the US will be guided by its own admonition now that the US has been horribly attacked by terrorists.

SECRETARY POWELL: I think when you are attacked by a terrorist and you know who the terrorist is, and you can fingerprint back to the cause of the terror, you should respond.

QUESTION: I mean, a limited response, or-

SECRETARY POWELL: You should respond, whether it's limited or other than limited. You should respond to those who did it. And if you are able to stop terrorist attacks, you should stop terrorist attacks.

QUESTION: Secretary Powell, one country you didn't mention was Pakistan.

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes.

QUESTION: And I understand that your Deputy has spoken with the Ambassador to Pakistan and that this evening the US Ambassador to Pakistan will be meeting with General Musharaff. What specific steps are you asking Pakistan to take, and have you at all insinuated that if all signs do lead to bin Laden that the US would take military action against Pakistan and Afghanistan?

SECRETARY POWELL: Our Ambassador is going to be having that meeting that you made reference to. It will probably not be this evening, more likely tomorrow as a result of scheduling problems. But Ambassador Armitage, Deputy Secretary Armitage, did meet with Pakistani officials today, and really to share views.

We have not made a determination yet as to who is responsible for yesterday's attack, but we thought as we gather information and as we look at possible sources of the attack, it would be useful to point out to the Pakistani leadership at every level that we are looking for and expecting their fullest cooperation and their help and support as we conduct this investigation and as we generate more information, and see if they can be helpful in generating information, as well as how helpful they might be if we find a basis to act upon that information.

So, yes, we are doing what you describe with the Pakistanis.

QUESTION: Just to clarify, when you say you're building a strong coalition to go after the perpetrators, does this mean that you are expecting or hoping that

other countries will participate in some kind of military retaliation?

SECRETARY POWELL: Under Article V, if we go that far and it actually is executed, then there is an obligation on the part of our NATO allies to assist if we go in this direction. It doesn't mean that they necessarily will participate in the attack, but it makes it easier to obtain support in the way of overflight rights and things of that nature.

But I don't want to get into what we might or might not to, and who might go with us and who might not go with us, because that's just too speculative at the moment.

QUESTION: Can I follow that? Having been through the Gulf War as you were,

would you hope to build the kind of coalition that extends perhaps beyond NATO and includes perhaps Muslim nations, nations from different parts of the world?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, it should include Muslim nations. Muslim nations have just as much to fear from terrorism that strikes at innocent civilians, and I do have a number of calls in -- I just haven't connected yet -- with other leaders in the world representing Muslim populations. As I was coming down, I was waiting to receive a call from Amr Moussa, Head of the Arab League, and I also will be talking to my Egyptian colleagues and Jordanian colleagues before the evening is out.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, you have not yet mentioned the point that President Bush made last night, the idea of holding other countries responsible. This

seems to be a dramatic escalation in the US view on how it responds to terrorism. Is that a correct interpretation of it?

And as a follow-up, you talk about returning to normal, yet there have been all these mentions of "acts of war," the idea that the country is in a war. How can we just return to normal in a situation like this?

SECRETARY POWELL: Well, on your first point, I mentioned in my earlier statements, and I will mention it again, that it's not just a matter of going after the perpetrators, but it's going after and dealing with the sources of

support that they have, whether that source of support might come from a host country or other organizations that provide them. We have to make sure that we go after terrorism and get it by its branch and root.

And so we will hold accountable those countries that provide support, that give host nation, if you can call it that, support and facilities to these kinds of terrorist groups.

Now, yes, we believe that acts of war have been committed against the American people, and we will respond accordingly. But at the same time, life has to go on. In all of the difficult times we will be facing ahead, we have to still try to return life to a sense of normalcy. We cannot be a people who are afraid to live. We cannot be a people who will move away from a relatively open society. We cannot be a people who walk around terrified. We're Americans; we don't walk around terrified.

We are going to be strong in this difficult period, and we're going to move forward with pride and with determination. And we will get our society back to normal with whatever additional precautions, nevertheless, might be necessary to secure our society without locking ourselves down.

QUESTION: Secretary Powell, yesterday Senator Gramm said that in response to the attacks he would be willing to reassess the ban on assassinations of foreign

leaders. And I was wondering, would you support such a reassessment?

SECRETARY POWELL: The ban is an executive order and we have not made such a

reassessment. And I'll just leave it there.

QUESTION: India has said many times in the past that Pakistanis having terrorism in their training camps in Pakistan, and now US officials, including a number of lawmakers here on the Hill, are saying that Usama bin Laden have his training camps in Pakistan and because he is sending all this religious fire or terrorism fire from Pakistan.

So now is it time now to go after those countries who are harboring terrorism, really, because how long can we wait or how long -- how many innocent people can be hurt?

SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I do want to confirm what the Indian Government may or may not have said. But as the President said last night, we will be directing our efforts not only against terrorists but against those who do harbor and do provide haven and do provide support for terrorism.

QUESTION: Deputy Secretary Armitage heads a task force with the Russians on

Afghanistan where the United States and Russia seem to share some interests. Can this be used as a platform in the coming days?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, we are planning to do that.

QUESTION: In what way?

SECRETARY POWELL: As you know, it is a little difficult to travel right now, but we are looking at ways that he and Deputy Foreign Minister Trubnikov can pursue this.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, with a country like Afghanistan with whom we don't have diplomatic relations, there is less leverage that we have against that country. What kinds of things are you thinking of using now when you talk about going

after the entire country? Is it food aid? How else can --

SECRETARY POWELL: We haven't singled out any country to go after. What we are trying to do now is gather the evidence and the information so that we can make a judgment as to who is responsible for this act. And once we do that, we will go after that group and we will determine what kinds of support they have been getting, from what host countries or other supporting agencies, and we will go and deal with them as well.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, there are some 25 organizations on the list of FTOs, on the State Department's list. Should all those organizations consider themselves targets of this global campaign against terrorism?

And secondly, when you speak to the Arab leaders, will you be asking for specific acts of support, of material assistance in this campaign?

SECRETARY POWELL: On the first question, just the very designation that they have been put on that list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations suggests that the United States will be taking action against them. And we just identified another one this week, the AUC in Colombia. And we take certain actions against them. It doesn't mean we go in and attack them with military force, but there are a variety of political and diplomatic and legal actions that you can take against them.

With respect to conversations with Arab leaders, I am sure I will discuss with them a full range of possibilities as to what kind of support they can give us of a political and diplomatic nature. I don't know of any other kinds of support that I would ask for at this time.

I might mention that in the context of my discussions this morning with Shimon Peres and Chairman Arafat and also Prime Minister Sharon, I encouraged all sides to do everything they can to get this process of meetings started that we have all been waiting for, for Mr. Arafat and Mr. Peres to find an opportunity in the very near future to meet and not have protracted discussions about where to meet. It's more important to meet.

So in this time of tragedy, in this time of heightened tension throughout the world, and especially throughout that region, let's seize this opportunity to see if we cannot start this process of meetings -- this schedule of meetings -- so that we can get to the Mitchell Peace Plan, so that even while we are dealing with this situation, this crisis that is here in Washington and New York. We are also working on the Middle East situation and seeing if we can get that jump- started.

QUESTION: Do you believe that this attack is linked to the events in the Middle East, to the Arab-Israel crisis? Or is this something that preceded this current Intifada? And secondly, do you believe that this bombing will somehow serve as a problem for moderate Arab governments whose peoples seem to be more enthusiastic about this bombing than their governments who have condemned it?

SECRETARY POWELL: The governments have condemned it. I think that when it is realized throughout the region what a horrible act this truly was, I think it will be sobering for the region. And I hope everybody will realize that, no

matter what you might think about the crisis in the Middle East, this is not the way to solve it. This is not the way to express your views about that by killing hundreds and thousands of innocent civilians.

I hope that is sobering to anybody who has any civilized drop of blood flowing through their body and who believe in an Almighty of some form or another. This is not the way you do it. There is no religion that would condone the kinds of action that we are seeing. And so I hope this will be a sobering experience for the world, and especially for those in the Middle East and in the Persian Gulf.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, we know you have said that you don't know who is responsible. But your comments this morning on television and the President's comments about harboring terrorists do seem to indicate an organization such as Usama bin Laden, and also about harboring terrorism point to Afghanistan as a country that harbors terrorists.

What did you make of the comments by the supreme leader of the Taliban yesterday about the attack? And do you think that the Taliban are still harboring Usama bin Laden? And if he is deemed responsible for this attack, do you think that the Taliban will expel Usama bin Laden and help the US bring him to justice?

SECRETARY POWELL: I'm sure that the Taliban leadership are providing protection and opportunities and facilities for Usama bin Laden, but I don't want to get into the hypotheticals as to whether or not he is responsible for it. A body of evidence is being developed, and in due course, we will make an announcement. But I don't think it's useful to say, well, we are 50 percent, 60 percent, 70 percent sure it's this organization or that. That just leads to, very often, incorrect answers, and I don't think it's helpful during this time.

So as the evidence builds, and it is building, in due course, we will make a

judgment, and we will act upon that judgment in the way the President has indicated.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, what conversations do you anticipate having with the leaders of Persian Gulf countries? What support will you be seeking from them, if in fact it's found that the threat originated in their part of the world? And what kind of military latitude would you like to be able to exercise in that part of the world with their blessing?

SECRETARY POWELL: If we think they can be helpful in finding those who may be responsible, we will expect that help and we will express that point of view

very, very clearly. And I have already started to do so in some of my preliminary conversations, and frankly, I expect support. They are outraged; they are shocked; they are stunned. Whatever their views might be, or whatever the views of their people might be, with respect to the crisis in the Middle

East. They are stunned and find this to be a deplorable act. I think they are speaking not just as leaders but as leaders of people who, although some might rejoice and shout, most find this to be deplorable and something to be condemned.

And going back to an earlier question, obviously the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis has been going on for a long time and is always in the background, but some of the terrorist organizations that we have seen at work over the years conduct terrorist activities against the United States, regardless of how the peace process may or may not be going, with respect to the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, (inaudible) conversations you were going to have with the Persian Gulf leaders?

SECRETARY POWELL: I beg your pardon?

QUESTION: Specific conversations you anticipate having? Will you be talking with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis --

SECRETARY POWELL: With who? Oh, yes, I've already had some conversations with Saudis, and I'll be doing more this afternoon. We're still changing time zones, as I catch up on my phone calls.

Thank you.

QUESTION: Secretary Powell, ABC News is reporting that the intended target was not the Pentagon. Ari Fleischer told our reporter at the White House that the target was not the Pentagon but in fact the White House, and that Air Force One was also a target.

SECRETARY POWELL: Ari said that?

QUESTION: Yes. Have you heard that?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes.

QUESTION: Could you give us more detail about that, what you've heard about the intended target?

SECRETARY POWELL: No. I don't have anything to go beyond what Ari said, and I really need to yield that part of it to intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

Thank you.

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