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(b). What stage are those cases at, and is there any realistic chance that prosecutions will be carried through in Germany, France or elsewhere.
(c). Explain the Pinochet case if you haven’t already.
2(a). Discuss the fact that torture is barred under international law, including by the Convention Against Torture.
(b). Explain what constitutes mental or physical torture.
A. There cannot be any good faith doubt that America has engaged in torture, can there?B. Despite all the government secrecy, to be discussed below, we now know, do we not, that the desire for and authorization for torture extended right up to Bush (who, we even know, signed an order for it in 2006)?
C. Explain the domestic laws against torture: the War Crimes Act and the Anti-Torture Statute.
4(a). Elaborate the fact that lawyers in the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense and the White House set out, via a small committee that operated in secret, to insure that there were legal opinions that justified and provided a legal defense for torture. The lawyers, at least some of whom, if not all of whom, personally agreed with what was going on, included Addington, Gonzales, Yoo, Haynes, and, occasionally, some others, e.g., Goldsmith. Later Bradbury took over Goldsmith’s opinion writing responsibilities.
A. Explain the role of the Office of Legal Counsel in all this.B. Everything was kept secret and a “very close hold” so that people would not know and could not question what was being done or its supposed legal bases.
C. Explain that the military JAGs objected to the torture but were silenced.
A. Discuss the fact that its definition of torture was preposterous (it was taken from a Medicare statute defining when a hospital must give emergency treatment), and its definition of specific intent meant there could never be torture. And this is not to mention that it made the Commander-in Chief a dictator.
A. Note that a now-public DOD memo setting forth authorized techniques includes a form of waterboarding – and that is a public memo, so one wonders what might be in still secret memos.B. The “Levin memo” which replaced Yoo’s torture memo contains an often overlooked footnote which in effect says the previously authorized techniques were legal.
5(a). All of this makes the lawyers complicit in crimes under international law and crimes under domestic statutes, doesn’t it? In relevant legal phrases, they are “complicit,” “aiders and abettors,” “co-conspirators,” and persons who could “foresee the consequences of their acts.”
A. That the lawyers were complicit, prosecutable and morally reprehensible is only the more true, isn’t it, because this is a law riven society in which people depend on lawyers to tell them what they can or cannot do. It was, indeed, concern for legal repercussions that led CIA people to demand a golden shield in the first place.
(b). German lawyers and judges were prosecuted for complicity in violations of law, were they not?
A. And at Nuremberg Justice Jackson said we would be bound by the rules we were imposing on the Germans.
i. What the Administration has done is an effort to override, or defacto repeal, Nuremberg, isn’t it?
A. Because the same quandary will affect any future nominee for AG if Mukasey is rejected, it is foreseeable that Bush, as he has done with so many other positions, will appoint an “interim” or “acting” AG -- who does not have to be approved by the Senate, I believe (is this correct?) -- to serve through the rest of Bush’s term.B. If the Senate approves Mukasey even if he declines to say torture is illegal, then isn’t the Senate too complicit in crimes against both international and domestic law? Isn’t someone complicit when, with knowledge, he supports and approves someone else who is complicit?
(b). Even if it is immunized from prosecution in the United States, it would not be immunized elsewhere from prosecution under international law.
(c). Would it even be immunized within the United States if the tortured person were later found not to have been an enemy combatant, as has occurred, I gather, with regard to about 40 people at Gitmo? The immunizing law, as I understand it, applies only to people who were “enemy combatants.”
A. And the immunizing law wouldn’t apply when some innocent person -- and there have been several -- was kidnapped off the streets and was immediately and complicitously (co-conspiratorially) rendered to some other country (e.g., Syria) for torture. We never ruled such a person an “enemy combatant.”
(b). Ditto re the United States keeping Bybee as a federal judge instead of forcing his resignation or impeaching and convicting him.