• Audio: Scoop has received audio of Nick Smith discussing KiwiSaver and how National wants to fight the election on tax. He also discusses how MPs not Crosby Textor call the shots on National policy.

Nick Smith: "We are quite deliberately in neutralise phase at the moment. We don't want to fight the election on Kiwisaver. You got to decide what you want to fight the election on. We want to fight the election on tax. We want to the fight election on education standards. We want to fight the election on law and order."

Nick Smith: "There's a whole lot of bullshit talk about them. But the policy decisions are always made by the elected representatives. I haven't seen either of them this campaign. A couple of campaigns I've done a bit of work with them."

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