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Cablegate: Brazil: Ambassador's Meeting with Senator Jose

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/25/2016
TAGS: PREL BR
SUBJECT: BRAZIL: AMBASSADOR'S MEETING WITH SENATOR JOSE
SARNEY

Classified By: ACTING DEPUTY CHIEF OF MISSION DENNIS HEARNE. REASONS: 1
.4 (B)(D).

1. (C) Summary. Ambassador and A/DCM met on 13 November with
Senator Jose Sarney -- Brazil's first civilian president
following the military regime, senior senator, PMDB party
leader and elder statesman. Sarney was accompanied by Banco
Safra President Carlos Alberto Viera and Sarney's diplomatic
advisor. Over a friendly lunch at Sarney's residence,
Ambassador and Sarney discussed prospects for governance in
Brazil in Lula's second term, bilateral relations, and
Venezuela. Sarney was especially adamant in voicing his
perception of Venezuela as a growing threat to Brazilian
interests. End summary.

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Governance in Lula's Second Term

2. (C) Sarney said the outlook for effective governance in
Lula's second mandate is stormy. The political environment
in the wake of the campaign and a year of scandals and
exchanges of charges is "very bitter," making construction
of bridges to opponents a challenge. As one of the senior
leaders in the pro-Lula wing of the large but fragmented PMDB
party that will be central to Lula's coalition, Sarney opined
Lula will try to reach out to the opposition, "as a good-will
gesture," to seek consensus on vital issues. But Sarney said
that he (and also Lula) are skeptical about the chances for
success, given the opposition's force in the Senate
especially. Lula will also try to leverage governors, many of
whom are with him and all of whom need good relations with
the federal government. Beyond the poisoned atmosphere,
Brazil's basic problem is that it has a dysfunctional party
system that is creating gridlock, Sarney opined. Since party
ideology and discipline are almost non-existent, passage of
legislation becomes chaotic and often stalls. To fill the
vacuum, for many years Brazilian presidents have used
"provisional measures" (Medidas Provisorias), which are
executive orders that have the force of law for supposedly
temporary periods, but which are often extended indefinitely.
This creates governance by executive fiat, rather than
legislation. It is "an exhausted system," Sarney said, and
there is growing unanimity -- in which Sarney and Lula share
-- that broad political reform has become a critical priority
for Brazil.

Bilateral relations

3. (C) Ambassador asked Sarney for his views on strengthening
bilateral relations. Sarney replied the U.S. and Brazil
should do everything possibl to flesh out bilateral
relations with more persn-to-person and congressional
engagement, "not laving matters just to theexecutive
branch." Sarney opined that personal elations are key, and
that he feared that a waning of those contacts had occurred
since Sarney entered public life, leaving U.S.-Brazil
relations "in the hands of institutions, not people."
Ambassador noted concern that, while there is interest among
many in both countries in improving relations and there is
little anti-Americanism in Brazil, doubts existed in
Washington about the anti-U.S. bias among some senior foreign
ministry officials. Ambassador noted the recent public
comments by Foreign Ministry Secretary General Pinheiro
Guimaraes that Brazil could eventually withdraw from the
Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Sarney dismissed
Guimaraes' remarks, calling him "a madman, a prominent one,
but a madman." Sarney also opined that anti-Americanism does
not exist on any substantial level in Brazil's public, and
that Brazil's emergence from international indebtedness and
assertion of itself in foreign policy had taken away some of
the banners of Brazil's traditional anti-American left.

Venezuela

4. (C) Asked by the Ambassador about Venezuela, Sarney was

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blunt and vehement, presenting Chavez as a growing and direct
threat to Brazilian interests. He said Chavez's arms
build-up (Sarney used a figure of 60 billion dollars over 12
years, NFI) would eventually force Brazil into spending money
on weapons -- money it needs for other priorities -- or
seeking a protective strategic alliance with a major power
(by implication, with us) or other regional partners. Sarney
noted that NATO is emerging as a valuable international
response force, and had allowed European governments to pool
defense resources, since almost no country (except the U.S.)
could sustain the cost of modern warfare. Sarney said Chavez
could not seriously be considering arming for a conflict with
the U.S., so the question had to be asked, against whom are
all of his new weapons directed? Ambassador agreed with
Sarney's analysis, and in that context, expressed his dismay
that he had heard more official GOB criticism of the USG
decision to not support sale of Embraer Super Tucanos to
Chavez then of Chavez's armaments-buying spree.

5. (C) Comment. Sarney's vociferous views on Chavez are
remarkable. Although his political origins are on the right,
and he is often personally and politically friendly toward
the U.S., Sarney is also a Brazilian nationalist and sensitive
to Brazil's independence. For Sarney to speak in such
adamant terms of Chavez as a real menace to Brazil,
one who may need to be countered with new strategic thinking,
is a powerful indication of broad and spreading concern
in Brazil's political class.


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