A tough new resolution on Iraq - Jack Straw IV
'A tough new resolution on Iraq'
In a radio interview the Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, reaffirmed that the overwhelming preference of both the UK and the US was for a peaceful resolution to the problem of Saddam Hussein and his weapons programme.
However he reiterated at the same time that the only reason Iraq had begun to show signs of compliance was that the diplomatic effort so far had been backed up by the legal use of force.
Mr Straw said:
"I've always made it clear that we will always in the United Kingdom act within our obligations in international law."
"But we have to maintain our options if in the event, which I do not believe will happen, the United Nations fails to meet its responsibilities today to deal effectively with the defiance by Saddam Hussein of international law."
TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS...
'A TOUGH NEW RESOLUTION ON IRAQ' (05/11/02)
QUESTION:
The
government of Saudi Arabia seem to be backing down on their
offer to allow its territory to be used to launch offensive
action against Iraq because they fear a backlash in public
opinion? That must be rather worrying for you mustn't
it?
JACK STRAW:
No, because we're not in the moment at
the stage of taking military action against
Iraq.
QUESTION:
Building up our forces aren't
we?
JACK STRAW:
We've been working extremely closely
with the United States Secretary of State Colin Powell in
robust line by line negotiations with France and Russia,
China and the elected members of Security Council, aiming
for a widely supported resolution requiring Saddam Hussein
and the Iraqi regime to end their defiance, not of the US or
the UK or Russia or France, but of the United Nations. If we
get that resolution, if it is properly supported and sets
out a clear sequence of obligations upon Saddam Hussein and
he then follows those and complies with the obligations
which I hope will be imposed, that, frankly will be the end
of the matter.
QUESTION:
And America will bring all its
forces home again, will it?
JACK STRAW:
What America
does with its own forces is a matter for America, but let me
make this very clear point, that over the last nine months
there has been much speculation about the imminence of
military action. And I've given you an interview almost once
a week to say that military action is not about to take
place. Instead, what we are working for is for the United
Nations to lay down the law and for Iraq then to be
compliant with it. But I also add this point. To the extent
that there has been movement at least in words by the Iraqi
regime, as there has been on 14 September with Saddam saying
he might comply with a resolution even though he was denying
that four days before, to that extent it has only happened
because we are backing diplomacy with the threat of force,
justified and spelt out in the United Nations
charter.
QUESTION:
Right, so in other words if we get
that resolution through, if the inspectors start to move in
to Iraq then we can expect to see America stop its build up
in the region? And as their most influential ally one
assumes we're influential in this whole area, so is that
what we would be urging?
JACK STRAW:
That would be
unwise in my opinion for this reason I've just said. The
only reason we've got this far with words at least uttered
by Saddam Hussein that he may comply with new United Nations
resolutions when just a matter of weeks ago he was saying
number one he wouldn't comply is the credible threat of
force. And it was Kofi Annan who said wisely that sometimes
sensitive diplomacy has to be backed to be effective by the
threat of force.
QUESTION:
But the trouble is that the
impression that one has is that if America then decides to
take action in and of itself without specific UN approval,
we will support that action.
JACK STRAW:
I've always
made it clear that we will always in the United Kingdom act
within our obligations in international law. But we have to
maintain our options if in the event, which I do not believe
will happen, the United Nations fails to meet its
responsibilities today to deal effectively with the defiance
by Saddam Hussein of international law.
But we're not there and I've also said to you on many occasions our overwhelming preference, as is that of the United States I am certain, is for there to be a new tough resolution or resolutions before the United Nations so this can be resolved within the immediate framework of the UN. That is a far better way for it to happen.
QUESTION:
But
notwithstanding the fact that when you see the new
Archbishop of Canterbury writing in the sort of terms in
which he's written in the Daily Telegraph this morning,
warning that a pre-emptive strive against Saddam could
rapidly and uncontrollably spiral down in to chaos. There
would be fears of a nuclear conflagration, criticism that
we'd be behaving like a colonial power. He's speaking for a
lot of people isn't he, when he uses language like that?
That must give you pause for thought mustn't it?
JACK
STRAW:
I've read the Archbishop's article and I hope that
everybody pauses for thought before they contemplate the
possibly of military action. And for those of us who have
that direct responsibility, the burden is a very intense
one. And nobody should ever contemplate military action
lightly.
But I would just make this point. Later today I'm going to the Balkans where I'll be visiting the former republic of Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Kosovo and those three territories tell their own story about first of all the world standing back from the terrible atrocities that were going on, or being perpetrated by Serbia. Then chaos and indecision by the international community in Bosnia and then finally led by our own Prime Minister so far as Kosovo is concerned we finally got concerted international action.
Many people at the time said should we be taking this? Is it proportionate, is the military action proportionate to the problem? There was bombing for seventy eight days I recall. You, I remember, repeatedly were asking Robin Cook, and quite rightly is this justified, is it necessary. And yet at the end of it it was palpable that it was necessary and it's only as a result of that military action that was taken in Kosovo that we now have relative peace and a prosperous prospect of a future for the whole of the Balkans.
QUESTION:
A very quick thought about an
interview that Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister of Israel,
has given to The Times. He says that if a war in Iraq
happens the next target immediately after must be Tehran.
What do you say to Mr Sharon?
JACK STRAW:
Well I
understand why people in Israel are frightened, but I
profoundly disagree with him. And I think it would be the
gravest possible error to think in that way. I know that
Iran has a very hostile attitude to the existence to the
State of Israel. But I also know that Iran, a country which
I visited three times in the last twelve months, is a nation
in a state of transition.
It has an elected government which Iraq palpably does not. That elected government is seeking to exert its authority over the whole of the government of Iran including the armed forces and the security apparatus which at the moment is controlled effectively by the religious authority under the leader Khomeni, rather than the President Khatami, so I think that the way to ensure proper progress with Iran is not by that kind of hostile threat, but by the process and strategy of constructed and critical engagement that we're involved in.
ENDS