Q+A: Phil Goff
Bad Stats Will Be My First Focus:
Goff
The new mayor of Auckland, Phil Goff, says
the first thing he’ll do tomorrow morning when he starts
his job is meet his team and focus on statistics that show
only 15% of Aucklanders have trust and only
17% are satisfied with the job Auckland Council is
doing.
“So the Chief executive and I have to work together … to restore the trust and confidence of Aucklanders,” he told Q+A’s Jessica Mutch.
“Either the council is not delivering what Aucklanders want or we’re not communicating the message very well or probably a mixture of the two. We’ve got a budget in the first six or seven weeks of being sworn in as councillors, and my focus has to be on delivering greater efficiency and more effective council in that budget.”
Mr Goff
also said he was confident he could work with central
government on issues like the transport levy, which he says
overcharges people in the city who do not use peak-hour
traffic.
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Episode
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PHIL
GOFF
Interviewed by JESSICA
MUTCH
JESSICA Well, the mayor
now joins me now. Thank you very much for your time this
morning.
PHIL Thanks,
Jess.
JESSICA It
seems like you took one for the team when you were the
Labour leader. How does it feel now being on the winning
side of
things?
PHIL Well,
it’s always nice to win. And I want to thank Aucklanders
for the confidence and the trust that they’ve shown in me.
It was a strong mandate, 75,000 majority, and that mandate
is important in terms of driving through the programme for
Auckland, in Auckland Council itself, but also working
together with central government to deliver the things that
are really important to Auckland that we can only achieve if
central and local government work cooperatively
together.
JESSICA Do
you feel like on a personal level, though, you kind of
deserve this win a
bit?
PHIL I don’t
think you can ever say you deserve a win. You’ve got to go
out to earn respect. You’ve got to go out and work hard to
get a victory. And sometimes you’re swimming with the
tide; sometimes you’re swimming against it. 2011, you
know, we’d been in government nine years. After three
years, realistically, I didn’t think it was possible, but
I gave it my best shot. This time, people are being very
supportive right across Auckland, across different income
levels, age groups and across political
lines.
JESSICA Walking
into your new office Monday morning, sitting in the chair
with that new role, that new responsibility, what’s the
first thing that you’re going to do on Monday
morning?
PHIL The
first thing I’ll be doing Monday morning is meeting with
my chief executive officer, and then later with the
executive leadership team. And we’ll be focussed on some
pretty bad statistics that the council’s own survey found
that only 15% of Aucklanders had trust and
only 17% were satisfied with the job Auckland Council is
doing. So the chief executive and I have to work together,
strongly elected and appointed people, to restore the trust
and confidence of
Aucklanders.
JESSICA Because
that’s something Justin Lester said as well. Do you think
that’s countrywide, that people don’t trust leaders at
local government at the
moment?
PHIL It’s
disappointing that after six years of the so-called
supercity that we weren’t doing better than that in
Auckland. And what that indicates is either the council is
not delivering what Aucklanders want or we’re not
communicating the message very well or probably a mixture of
the two. We’ve got a budget in the first six or seven
weeks of being sworn in as councillors, and my focus has to
be on delivering greater efficiency and more effective
council in that budget. So holding rates at a cap of
2.5%.
JESSICA Because
that’s another thing I want to talk to you about is this
idea of how you’re going to handle central government.
Obviously you know how it works and you have relationships
with these guys already, but things like the regional fuel
tax, have you talked to Simon Bridges about that already? Is
that realistic? And how are you going to work through that
as a case
study?
PHIL Yeah. I
have talked to Simon about it, and it’s a Cabinet
decision, and I find Simon a very good person to work with,
and I’m confident that I’ll work really professionally
with the government of the day, whether it’s a
National-led or a Labour-led government. But, look, the
argument I’ll have to put to central government is at the
moment we have an interim transport levy – it’s $114 or
so – and it’s the same for a person on a minimum wage as
it is for a major corporate. It’s the same for a person
that uses the motorway every
day—
JESSICA But
is it realistic to get this
through?
PHIL Look,
what I’m saying to the government is, ‘This is a
government that I thought always believed in user pays. At
the moment we are totally inequitable at charging too much
to people who are not using peak-hour transport and we have
to have an element of road-user in that. And I’d be
surprised if I present the case, I do my homework properly,
I argue it well, I look at the finances, I’ll be surprised
if the government rejects that knowing that we are headed
towards gridlock in
Auckland.
JESSICA I
just want to talk to you about Chloe Swarbrick. She
obviously isn’t someone you can elect for deputy mayor;
you need to have someone sitting there. Will you look at
offering her a position? She’s someone you raved about
during the
campaign.
PHIL Look,
I welcome Chloe’s participation in the campaign. She’s
young. She doesn’t like to be reminded of that constantly.
But she’s enthusiastic, she’s energetic.
JESSICA Is there
a position for
her?
PHIL Look,
I’m not about to throw around job offers. I’ve got a
restricted budget. I intend to make the economies in the
mayor’s office before I impose economies in the council as
a whole, so I don’t have a large number of positions, but
the deputy mayor, that is somebody that I choose out of
existing councillors, and that will be done purely on
merit.
JESSICA Have
you decided on that
yet?
PHIL No, look,
I can’t make that decision till I’ve talked to all of
the councillors I’ll be working with, but when I make that
decision, it will be purely on
merit.
JESSICA We’ll
have to leave it there. But thank very much for your time
this morning, and
congratulations.
PHIL Thanks,
Jess. Thank you. I appreciate
that.