Susan Wood Interviews Iranian Ambassador to NZ
Sunday 18 August, 2013
Susan Wood
Interviews Seyed Majid Tafreshi, Iranian Ambassador to
NZ.
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SUSAN
WOOD INTERVIEWS SEYED MAJID
TAFRESHI
SUSAN
WOOD
Iran’s ambassador to NZ, Seyed Majid
Tafreshi, joins me now, and a very good morning to
you.
SEYED MAJID TAFRESHI - Iranian
Ambassador to
NZ
Good morning.
SUSAN
So, your new president, he is seen as much more
moderate than your former president. What changes are we
likely to see in
Iran?
SEYED As
Dr Rohani mentioned, a big, open gate is now ready for those
who claim are going to follow peace and security in our
region. And definitely Iran, as before, of course, is
following all peaceful means of settling any dispute between
us or a few countries in the West, mainly the United States
of America. Mr Rohani mentioned, as he was the chief
negotiator of our nuclear issue, he is always the optimist,
and he will rely based on the international mechanism, and
what we agreed on international law really solve this issue
and, of course, facilitate lots of benefits for our nation
that are now en route
there.
SUSAN
Sure, because you are struggling under sanctions at
the moment, your people
are.
SEYED
Yes.
SUSAN
But the West says you are enriching uranium for
weapons.
SEYED
How everybody can claim? We answered all the
questions of IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency)
before. We asked them to put on the table what you need, and
we answered all the questions. Iran don’t
need-
SUSAN
But the West is not buying that argument. They are
still saying it’s nuclear weapons
here.
SEYED I
don’t know what you mean about the West. I think the main
problem is the United States, that maybe it’s looking to
keep the instability in our region to be able to continue
his hegemonic powers in our region. Otherwise, in this part
of the world, neighbours are happy together, and we believe
nuclear weapons cannot survive anybody. Nobody can
survive.
SUSAN
But the reality is you have to convince the West.
You want to convince them to lift those sanctions because
they’re hurting your middle class,
your people,
aren’t they?
SEYED
We are ready to answer any questions based on
understandable mechanism. Enrichment of uranium is not to
solely making weapons. IAEA Board of Governors and also
through the Constitution of NPT (Non-Proliferation of
Nuclear Weapons Treaty), the NPT Treaty, you have rights to
enrich on any person you want. You have an inspection
system, and you can follow any warrior through the
inspection system, that over 30 months we voluntarily
continued 93 plus additional protocols.
SUSAN You say
you want peace in your region, but, of course, your former
president talked about ‘wiping the Zionist nation off the
map’, and the Israeli Prime Minister, Netanyahu, says,
‘The president may have changed, but the regime’s
intentions have not.’ Is that the
case?
SEYED
How you can wipe out somewhere that you didn’t
recognise it yet? And our leader also mentioned, I mean,
recognised the right of people there. He mentioned that
unless those evacuated by force from their own motherland
come back and have a constitution, have a new rule, and also
you have self-determination. He didn’t say, ‘Ok, you
come back, and you come back to Europe.’ Then already the
rights of those who are living here (are) recognised by us.
We are not going to wipe out anybody, because with wiping
out, you cannot bring peace and security in your
region.
SUSAN
And yet you’re backing the Syrian
regime.
SEYED
Regime? What is the meaning of regime? We cannot
easily change the name of the president’s regime and try
to follow a regime change mechanism that is under
international law. President Assad is now supported by his
own people. The best solution is, as we mentioned before,
the right and the will of people to have elections there,
not selection by those who are selling weapons to their
opponents. Based on the Geneva convention and additional
protocols you don’t need to do
that-
SUSAN So
when have there been free and fair elections in
Syria?
SEYED
He is ready for 2014 to have elections. Dispute
settlement is not necessarily selling weapons to opponents.
You have lots of problems in the Pacific. Nobody have rights
to increase the tension here. Everybody should support
peaceful settlement.
Syria-
SUSAN
So you’re saying it’s the outside that’s
increasing the tensions in Syria? It’s not coming from the
internal?
SEYED
Yes, of course. In Syria, the people were happy
with their government. Of course, Mr Assad, as you know,
he’s a doctor. He’s not even an army man. He
mentioned, ‘If the people don’t want me, I’m ready
to go.’ But, anyway, we did a lot for Syria, and I just
prepared this small thing that what we did in last two
years. We had two international seminars in Iran. We even
didn’t invite anybody from the government or the
opponents. We invited everybody from the outside and asked
them. 30 countries participated. We asked them, ‘We need
to respect the sovereignty of the state, and also beside
that, follow any mechanism for dictating the rule of a
nation.’ It’s not necessarily-
SUSAN Well,
speaking of wills of nations, Egypt. You have condemned the
Egyptian military for the crackdown on President Morsi
supporters. Isn’t that hypocritical? I mean, you crack
down on your own people in 2009, 2011,
2012.
SEYED
For what? Crackdown
of?
SUSAN
Yeah, the dissidents, you shut them
down.
SEYED
When?
SUSAN
2009. After the last election. ’11 and ’12. You
cracked down on your people, dissidents there you crack down
on, but you’re saying the Egyptians are doing the wrong
thing.
SEYED
No, no. In Iran, what happened after the election
was again not obeying of the rule. All- I’m asking you,
all those who
nominate-
SUSAN
Not obeying the rules, cracking down; pretty
similar thing.
SEYED
All those who nominate coming to be the president,
the capability already approved by the council. The Guardian
Council approved as a capable president. There is no doubt
if somebody be able to get enough votes can come and can be
president. Why? I maybe didn’t even, myself, vote for the
previous president of Iran, but I’m ambassador here of
him. It’s not important (who) to vote for? It’s
important you follow the criteria. Even those who claim it
was some forge before now claim we were not right, and it
was a big
mistake.
SUSAN
NZ and Iran - very far
apart.
SEYED
Yeah.
SUSAN
What impact do we have on each other as
nations?
SEYED
Of course, NZ for us is an important country in the
Pacific. NZ, with the power of logic, can play much role in
the international community, and you are going to join the
Security Council, and you are going to represent the
international community, and Iran is also some part of that.
One of the most important part of the ?. We need to have
nuclear-weapon-free zones in our region. We need to bring
back all those who come back out of the NPT Treaty. We need
to oblige and ask even Israel to come to NPT and other
countries. NZ would fare- I mean, foreign policy can help a
lot, and, of course, we have, for the last four decades,
lots of cooperation, mainly in the economy. We are the main
customer of your butter, your dairy. Of course, embargoes
really affects our relation, and your exporters have a
little bit of problem for getting their money, but we are
doing our best in the embassy to facilitate all we can do
for both sides to continue this corridor of cooperation,
especially in the culture that hopefully, in 2014, we will
have three months in the name of the Glorious Treasures of
Persia in Te Papa,
hopefully.
SUSAN
Very good to speak to you this morning. Thank you,
ambassador.
SEYED
Thank you, thank
you.
ENDS